Just in case anyone is following this ... I tried every dev kid I could find to create a keystore I could drag a cer into ... gthe one I needed was IBM's HOWEVER ... I can't find it OR their MEKeytool so I decided to say forget it and opened port 8080 for http connectivity
I can now connect from my Motorola Q and view messages etc. I can not however scroll in a message to see the whole thing, nor can I reply, or mark a message as read

... but I can compose a new message and that works!!
*sigh* I guess my best hope is for either a WM5 native client (I hate the fact that it's a Motorola with no native Java ... damn WM5) or to find a good non bulky, non crappy iMAP client. Either way I guess I leaned a lot about the dev kits and signing (x509) apps and certs ... and how proprietary dev kids use their own NON standard methods for implementing ... standards .... my head hurts
