real time email push

[adeelarifbhatti]

Hi all,
I am looking for any server which can offer me a real time push email.
I want my server to push the email and not depending on the client. The client can be thunderbird, webmail or a mobile application which is connected to the mail server?




Any idea of implementing a real time sync and push on server and not on the client ?


Regards
Adeel

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by adeelarifbhatti

Hi all,
I am looking for any server which can offer me a real time push email.
I want my server to push the email and not depending on the client. The client can be thunderbird, webmail or a mobile application which is connected to the mail server?

That's what you get with the Zimbra IMAP connection.

Originally Posted by adeelarifbhatti

Any idea of implementing a real time sync and push on server and not on the client ?

It actually depends on the client supporting IMAP Idle (Thunderbird, for one, supports it), you get that with ZImbra Desktop.

[adeelarifbhatti]

Thanks for the answer.

But the imap connection has to be always active, and if I am using my mobile, keeping my connection always active will be requiring work at my own end i.e. keep alive (NOOP) messages and will make me pay in terms of bill???
With an pure email push the imap connection is not required(ACTIVE)at all, the mails reaches to u like an SMS, isn't?

What should I be doing to implement pure email push?
Does it require some gateway or other server like Funambol?I have to implement pure email push on server end and not at client.

Any ideas about Funambol? ???
Regards
Adeel

[adeelarifbhatti]

will it be an real time push i.e. a real time pop-up.
Is it implemented by default, or some modification is required in that?

More over is there any way to sync in real time the calender task and contacts



Best regards
Adeel

[uxbod]

What ZCS server are you using ?

su - zimbra
zmcontrol -v

[bradb21]

IMAP Idle is a push. You just have to make sure the mail client supports idle. Pocket Outlook does not support IDLE.

[Dirk]

Originally Posted by adeelarifbhatti

Thanks for the answer.

But the imap connection has to be always active, and if I am using my mobile, keeping my connection always active will be requiring work at my own end i.e. keep alive (NOOP) messages and will make me pay in terms of bill???
With an pure email push the imap connection is not required(ACTIVE)at all, the mails reaches to u like an SMS, isn't?

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It doesnt really work that way. If your client device is not connected to the server, then you wont be informed of new mail. It's not possible for the server to initiate a connection to the client. The client is not a reachable endpoint as it has no ip address when not connected to the data network.

You can recieve SMS when not connected to the data network because that message is send from the cell network over it's control channel, which is always on.

If you want the client to know something as soon as the server knows it, then it needs to be connected at the time. IMAP IDLE is designed to initiate the connection and the shut up until something happens, so you incur no data charges unless there's a mail, or unless you need to reconnect.

Short version is that if you want push mail to a mobile device, get a data plan.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by adeelarifbhatti

But the imap connection has to be always active, and if I am using my mobile, keeping my connection always active will be requiring work at my own end i.e. keep alive (NOOP) messages and will make me pay in terms of bill???

Yes, that's correct, you'll need a good data plan.

Originally Posted by adeelarifbhatti

With an pure email push the imap connection is not required(ACTIVE)at all, the mails reaches to u like an SMS, isn't?

That's not correct, IMAP IDLE is push email and using an SMS isn't push email. Using an SMS notification is actually a 'pull email', and SMS message is sent to the phone and the phone then starts to pull mail to the phone, it's not a reliable system.