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    Default Zimbra vs. Exchange

    With the cost of zimbra being damn near what exchange 2007 costs, why zimbra instead of exchange?

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    Default Plenty of reasons!

    Zimbra is...

    Easier to maintain, phenomenally easier to extend, really supports internet standards, you get the source if you'd like to make your own alterations, the web interface is richer, the support is more reactive, the company is less evil, releases come multiple times per year instead of once per multiple years, the IMAP server is richer, runs on non-Windows servers, gets better performace with the same hardware, you can enter your own feature requests and the company actually pays attention. Et cetera.

    All that and a bag of chips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1nz View Post
    With the cost of zimbra being damn near what exchange 2007 costs, why zimbra instead of exchange?
    Okay, I'll bite....

    The top 10 reasons (of many more) to choose Zimbra Collaborative Suite instead of Exchange

    10. Zimbra is based on Open Sourced software providing flexibility
    9. Zimbra scales significantly better and with less hardware overhead
    8. Multi-client support (Mac OS X & WindowsXP have parity on feature set)
    7. Let's be honest, it ain't Microsoft!
    6. Flexibility of server platform deployment (RHEL, MacOS X, SuSE)
    5. Zimlets/SOAP/REST - ability to integrate with other systems
    4. Searching - ever try searching a multi-gig mailbox in Outlook?
    3. Attachment search/rendering
    2. Integrated Spam/Anti-Virus that actually works well.
    1. Zimbra Support - try getting the response time and quality of support from MS that you can get from the Zimbra corporate team.

    Add to this that Zimbra is committed to the community and listens to us when we ask for features. It takes MS how long to implement needed features? Zimbra was recently featured in the Wall Street Journal and that article clearly shows that email users are looking for a better option. In about a year, Zimbra has over 4 Million paid mailboxes (plus however many Open Source version mailboxes) where as Microsoft has 140 Million mailboxes and they have been around how long? How long have they been the alone in the market space? Now that folks have a choice, they are running to Zimbra.

    And less we not forget that Zimbra is less expensive from a per seat license ($11 less (about 25%) according to the numbers in the WSJ article), add to that the administrative savings, TCO is significantly less with a Zimbra solution.

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    Default Can't believe I forgot to mention all the search stuff

    I can't believe I forgot to mention the search stuff. A fully-indexed mailstore (including attachments) is amazingly cool in practice.

    Should also have mentioned the iSync integration, the robust REST interface for both import and export, the SOAP interface that's also used by all the Zimbra clients (so there's no extra functionality you aren't allowed access to), the ability to integrate with an existing external LDAP server, the zmmailbox tool, the upcoming CalDAV support, the new HTML client, et cetera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkarp View Post
    All that and a bag of chips.
    Hey, I did not got mine!

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    Ok thanks for the information. This is helpful. I'm going to download the net edition trial and check it out for myself now, I've been using the open source edition and haven't been too impressed except for the fact that it was free.

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    Default Google gmail and google doc integration?

    Just curious, how well does Zimbra's capability to integrate with Google gmail and google docs? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkarp View Post
    really supports internet standards
    Given the three or four "it doesn't behave according to the RFC" conversations I'm having right now, is there a list somewhere of precisely the RFCs that Zimbra *does* "officially" support?
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    If you have features that you'd like to see added, please head over to bugzilla. Seriously. That is one of the main inputs we use in prioritizing what gets addressed when. Vote for the enhancements and bugs that you'd like to see us work on. Open new bugs if you can't find one that matches your concerns. If you don't see a lot of votes for bugs you care about, that probably indicates that other folks don't share your priorities, as you're likely to run out of issues well before you run out of votes.

    Being snarky on the message boards is unlikely to garner you either sympathy or help. Try to Ask Questions The Smart Way -- you'll get better answers.
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    I can bring the snarky with the best of them, but that was not it.

    That was a serious question, and, again, prospective paying customer here.

    I'll say *prospective* one more time, since I don't think it's getting across.

    I won't be paying for the code, clearly, I'll be paying for the company.

    I need a mail program to *be a mail program*, and so far, *lots* of stuff I usually don't even bother to think about a) just isn't there and b) no one seems to care that it's not.

    That troubles me a *lot*.

    Stuff like proper threading, proper quoting and attribution, mailing list handling, reasonably handling of plaintext mail, and the like is stuff that is just not optional to me in an MUA, and I move a *lot* of mail -- 3-400 messages a day.

    The backend of Zimbra may come from the "best FOSS traditions", but the more I look at the web client, the more it looks like it was feature-designed by people who grew up with Outhouse and Outhouse Exploit, rather than Mutt, and that's a mindset that I just can't cope with well.
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