AJAX UI, folder page navigation buttons and received time

[batfastad]

Hi everyone

I'm evaluating the NE trial at the moment before moving our 9 users over and there's something that's been bugging me whilst using the AJAX UI in anger over the past few weeks.
I'm sure when I checked out the demo there used to be buttons to allow you to quickly page through messages and navigate to the first/last pages.

It seems to have been replaced by an AJAX auto-load, which automatically loads the next x number of messages when you get to the bottom of the list.
Pretty cool but in FF 3.5.8 on WinXP SP3 it means I can't manually click within the scrollbars to move down the list faster.

Is there any way to get these pagination buttons back?

Cheers, B

[soxfan]

It sounds like you looked at a version 5 demo and now you are evaluating version 6. The elimination of pagination in email folders was one of the new "features" in version 6. I would think most users would prefer the version 6 way as this is how other email clients like Outlook and Thunderbird work. As far as I know there is (currently) no setting to get the version 5 behavior back.

You can search bugzilla and see if someone has already raised this issue. If not you can always open a new "bug".

[batfastad]

Yeah thought that would be the case.
Just seems to take alot longer to go through large folders.
I'll have a dig around in Bugzilla though but if the powers that be have decided that I no longer want that behaviour then I guess it's unlikely to make a return

EDIT: Also, is there any way to have the received time displayed for messages from previous days?
Anything from the previous day and older just has the date but no time. Though it's not major one. Probably not displayed to improve performance which is definitely a good thing. Just wondered if I was missing something.

Cheers, B

[soxfan]

Just seems to take alot longer to go through large folders.

I used to get a lot of complaints from people who didn't like that they could only view "x" amount of messages per page. I think it's just one of those things where it is a matter of preference. If you're going to use the ZWC get familiar with searching, saved searches, etc. Very powerful and can cut down on having to "go through" folders.

I'll have a dig around in Bugzilla though but if the powers that be have decided that I no longer want that behaviour then I guess it's unlikely to make a return

You're probably right, but it can't help to look for an existing bug and/or create a new one. If enough people show interest (by voting) perhaps they will reconsider.

EDIT: Also, is there any way to have the received time displayed for messages from previous days?
Anything from the previous day and older just has the date but no time. Though it's not major one. Probably not displayed to improve performance which is definitely a good thing. Just wondered if I was missing something.

Sorry, you're not missing anything... I don't think there is a way to do this.

[batfastad]

Yeah the searching is amazing. Searches in Outlook would take a few minutes but I love seeing the Zimbra search results after a couple of seconds. Definitely an excellent thing.
I also agree with using searches instead of going through folders. I've had a couple of questions from users about this but generally they're the ones with 15,000+ messages sat in their inbox!

Cheers, B

[joho]

Originally Posted by soxfan

It sounds like you looked at a version 5 demo and now you are evaluating version 6. The elimination of pagination in email folders was one of the new "features" in version 6. I would think most users would prefer the version 6 way as this is how other email clients like Outlook and Thunderbird work. As far as I know there is (currently) no setting to get the version 5 behavior back.

You can search bugzilla and see if someone has already raised this issue. If not you can always open a new "bug".

Seeing as how "everyone" agrees that this is something that comes down to personal preference, I'm surprised to see that Zimbra didn't make the new behavior optional. I have hundreds of messages (and thousands in some cases) in most folders, and it takes forever to get to the bottom of the list (regardless of the client). I have never seen another client that behaves like Zimbra does now (and I've used quite a few, including theBat, Thunderbird, PMMail, and Evolution).



-joho

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by joho

SI have hundreds of messages (and thousands in some cases) in most folders, and it takes forever to get to the bottom of the list (regardless of the client).

If you specifically want the end of your list then just click on the Received column to reverse the listing, et voila!

[batfastad]

But what if a user wanted to get 2/3rds down the messages by received date?

[joho]

Originally Posted by phoenix

If you specifically want the end of your list then just click on the Received column to reverse the listing, et voila!

The point is that locking the user into one type of navigation feels like a very inflexible way of doing things, specially since it doesn't exactly follow how most users are used to navigating in a list of "anything".

What's wrong with letting the user choose which way s/he wants to navigate?


-joho

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by joho

:What's wrong with letting the user choose which way s/he wants to navigate?

Nobody said there was anything wrong with that, if you think it's a problem then feel free to file an RFE.