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Old 03-13-2008, 11:40 AM
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Default Deficiencies in the Zimbra Web Client

I want to make sure I understand this and am not in error.

1. There is no way to have meeting reminders pop-up and alert you if you working in another application?

2. There is no built-in way to have a new email notification that pops up a message to tell you?

3. There is no mechanism to request and send Read receipts?


I tried that "toaster" external program thing, but it has to be installed and configured separately on all the PCs? That defeats one of the key benefits of using a web client!
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:58 PM
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3. There is no mechanism to request and send Read receipts?
See bug 7257 link
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:35 PM
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SPF-
We agree with you, which is why you have the power to vote.

Did you know that there were over 3k fixes/enhancements/changes from 4.5 to 5.0?

No matter what features we choose to devote our resources to, someone would always say that their features were a must, and should have been added.

That's why we vote. I hope you will vote.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:16 AM
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1. There is no way to have meeting reminders pop-up and alert you if you working in another application?
This is probably my biggest complaint about Zimbra. In fact, it's almost enough to have made me not want to choose Zimbra, but the rest of it is just so nice.

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2. There is no built-in way to have a new email notification that pops up a message to tell you?
Built-in, no. I do like the helper apps, they don't require you to have the client up - a real advantage - for both Windows and Linux. I really can't wait for pbruno's next ZimbraCheck. We install the Toaster with all of our systems.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:30 AM
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Default Let's be reasonable what we can expect from a web client. . .

Everyone who knows me on this forum knows I prefer IMAP clients for some of the very reasons you have delineated, but if I understand you correctly it seems you may be demanding more than a web client can deliver--popups and reminders and the like require some sort of program running to receive them. If you have a browser-only solution, of course it's not going to work when your browser is closed. Even the spyware browser-helper-objects (BHOs) that pop up a thousand **** sites only work when the browser is turned on. . .

Toaster gives you a client-based notification option; so does using an IMAP client if it also connects to your calendar. But how can you expect the web client to do anything when the computer isn't on the web?
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:19 AM
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But how can you expect the web client to do anything when the computer isn't on the web?
Well, if it were any other web-based email solution you'd be SOL.

Zimbra Desktop 1083!
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:30 AM
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Well, if it were any other web-based email solution you'd be SOL.

Zimbra Desktop 1083!
Sure, but OP is asking for pop-up notification of new mails. That's not desktop's job. ZD creates a "virtual" webserver with a backup of the account on the desktop, so you can see your emails via the web client when you're offline. It doesn't address the OP's request of notifications when he's not in the web client. That is a job for Toaster and/or other notification programs, any of which are by necessity external to the web client itself.

I know it's possible IF THE BROWSER IS RUNNING to have it pop up new windows and/or dialog boxes while it's minimized; the bad guys have been doing this forever with **** and "your computer is infected with spyware" spam. However, that's what popup blockers were invented for, too. It's possible that the Zimbra web client could throw up notification popups from a minimized browser, but only if you excluded Zimbra from the popup blockers.

Dan
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:45 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I know I must get involved in voting. I mainly just wanted to be absolutely sure that these features weren't available, so I can tell our users the status. I was hoping for some clever workaround or something. Some of our folks are very angry at the loss of these 3 features.

I don't expect pop-ups when the browser is closed, heh. Sorry if I wasn't clear; I meant just working in another program while the browser is minimized. As is, the current Calendar meeting notification is practically worthless. Like you suggested, if the **** spammers could figure out how to do this in 1996, we can today with this product. If popup blockers must whitelist zimbra, so be it. Thats a very easy fix that the user can handle.

I know everyone has their 'pet' enhancements they want, but these 3 things seem very basic to an 'enterprise' messaging/collaboration suite.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:26 PM
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Like you suggested, if the **** spammers could figure out how to do this in 1996, we can today with this product.
Can't argue with that. The code change must be minimal.
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