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    Default Port 81 again

    I have read all kinds of forums and discussions about port 81 so much so that I have been trying to get this going for about a week now.

    Here is a break down of what is going on;
    Port 81 on my router is open to the correct server
    Port 81 is open and accepts all ips on the server

    When I attempt the access the zimbra login I get the following;
    On my server (debian 64) if I type in mail.server.com:81 = zimbra login
    On my server (debian 64) if I type in 192.168.0.5:81 = zimbra login
    In my network mail.server.com:81 = error
    In my network 192.168.0.5 = zimbra login
    Out of network mail.server.com:81 = error
    Out of network myip:81 = error

    I have so far change mailport to 81
    zmprov ms zimbra.mydom.com zimbraMailPort 81

    Also made sure my AuthHost has the correct output
    zmprov ms zimbra.mydom.com zimbraMtaAuthHost zimbra.mydom.com
    equals http://mail.server.com:81/service/soap/

    I have no idea what I have missed but I am stuck.

    Any ideas???

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    I need more b4 I can say anything.
    What version of zimbra, FOSS, NE etc
    I got the platform

    Are you saying that client programs can't talk to your zimbra server via port 81 ?
    What happens via the web client ?

    Another thing, most people running zimbra are really all about using the webclient. Web accessible via https and you have a very rich interface, dunno why you would slow that down via any client software, even Zimbra desktop.

    So hopefully post some more and I might have some ideas.

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    I am running debian 64 and installed zimbra 7.0.1 open source webmail, all I have on the server is apache2 and 2 websites.

    Apache is running on 80 and I want zimbra to run on 81

    On the my first post that was all through web http, I wish I could get it to run on https but I am just attempting to get it to run on http first.. Obviously unsuccessfully.

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    Okay, you must run zimbra on it's own server.
    Zimbra wants the whole machine Sorry that's just the way it is.
    So, get a machine that meet specs and do your debian 64 install of just DNS and SSH server. Then do zimbra.

    Zimbra won't play well on a server with something else besides the OS.

    Are you behind a NATed firewall/router or no ?

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    So what you are saying is that zimbra wants my server to be an email appliance and nothing else correct??

    Yes it is behind a router and ports are forwarded to the correct sever...

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    Yeah, zimbra wants the whole server. Yes sir, yes sir.
    Since you're NATed, you will need to do split DNS

    I used this guide since I run Ubuntu. The split DNS stuff is the same minus the file locations. This is a good start. I would go with Ubuntu since Debian is deprecated

    Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server (Hardy Heron) Install Guide - Zimbra :: Wiki

    I have Ubuntu 804 and 10 running in 64 and 32 bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectra View Post
    Okay, you must run zimbra on it's own server.
    Zimbra wants the whole machine Sorry that's just the way it is.
    I too have been considering Zimbra for a fairly small setup because it apparently integrated stuff fairly cleanly but I'm now looking for something else specifically because of this.

    I found it completely mind-boggling that a server would want a whole machine to itself in this day and age. In my opinion this does not bode well for the quality of the software.

    So in the end I'll just assemble something from standard bits and pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredshome View Post
    I found it completely mind-boggling that a server would want a whole machine to itself in this day and age. In my opinion this does not bode well for the quality of the software.
    You've really got to be joking about both of those statements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredshome View Post
    So in the end I'll just assemble something from standard bits and pieces.
    If you like all the extra work involved then feel free to take that route.
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    Sorry but there's simply no reason to hog a whole computer this way, especially given how insanely powerful they are nowadays. Maybe I 'm old school but it makes absolutely no sense to me.

    In my eyes this is simply poor design.

    I reckon that tools like Zimbra are convenient but I 'd rather work with something cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredshome View Post
    Sorry but there's simply no reason to hog a whole computer this way, especially given how insanely powerful they are nowadays. Maybe I 'm old school but it makes absolutely no sense to me.

    In my eyes this is simply poor design.

    I reckon that tools like Zimbra are convenient but I 'd rather work with something cleaner.
    That is why you use virtualization to run multiple servers on one physical box. VMware ESXi is a great free solution to get you started.

    If you only have one static IP, just reverse proxy Zimbra through apache. This allows you to leave Zimbra on port 80.

    Code:
    <VirtualHost *:80>
        ServerAdmin email@mydomain.com
        ServerName mail.mydomain.com
        ServerAlias mail.*
    
        <IfModule mod_proxy.c>
            ProxyRequests Off
            ProxyVia On
            ProxyPreserveHost On
    
            ProxyPass / http://zimbra.mydomain.com/
            ProxyPassReverse / http://zimbra.mydomain.com/
        </IfModule>
    </VirtualHost>

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