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Old 04-30-2008, 12:17 PM
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Default [SOLVED] Install without FQDN possible?

Can you install Zimbra w/o a fully quailified domain name? I know there are lots of posts about the FQDN, hosts file, DNS, etc. but what if you don't have one? Our website is hosted offsite by our ISP, and they put our email into a single account, we use fetchmail (SuSE OpenXchange 4) to get the mail and distribute it. All without a doman name for the email server. Just a local IP address, and a name like 'mailserv'.

Can I install Zimbra this way as well?

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Old 04-30-2008, 12:22 PM
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Welcome to the forums

Why not just use a fake domain name ? ie. mailserver.mydomain.net

If you use a Split DNS - Zimbra :: Wiki configuration you can set what you like. Once setup, add your actual domain so you can set your from address. Then add a external account to fetch your email, or use fetchmail for multiple accounts, and away you go.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:39 PM
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I tried that, but the install crapped out with the errror to fix the hosts file.

Here is what I have:

Code:
127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       mailserv
192.168.7.103   mailserv.rci.ca mailserv
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:47 PM
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ok. if you can provide the following would help
Code:
cat /etc/hosts
cat /etc/resolv.conf
dig rci.ca mx
dig rci.ca ns
host `hostname` <- note backticks and not double quotes
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:02 PM
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Here they are. What does it matter what rci.ca produces? I thought you said I could use a bogus domain?

Code:
[root@mailserv zcs]# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       mailserv
192.168.7.103   mailserv.rci.ca mailserv
192.168.7.107   phpserv
192.168.7.105   arrow
Code:
[root@mailserv zcs]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search 199.246.2.115
nameserver 199.246.2.115
nameserver 4.2.2.1
nameserver 4.2.2.2
Code:
[root@mailserv zcs]# dig rci.ca mx

; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> rci.ca mx
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47111
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;rci.ca.                                IN      MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
rci.ca.                 400     IN      MX      300 rci.ca.s7b1.psmtp.com.
rci.ca.                 400     IN      MX      400 rci.ca.s7b2.psmtp.com.
rci.ca.                 400     IN      MX      100 rci.ca.s7a1.psmtp.com.
rci.ca.                 400     IN      MX      200 rci.ca.s7a2.psmtp.com.

;; Query time: 134 msec
;; SERVER: 199.246.2.115#53(199.246.2.115)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 30 15:58:57 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 145
Code:
[root@mailserv zcs]# dig rci.ca ns

; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> rci.ca ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40569
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;rci.ca.                                IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
rci.ca.                 291     IN      NS      connect.reach.net.
rci.ca.                 291     IN      NS      flamingo.reach.net.

;; Query time: 86 msec
;; SERVER: 199.246.2.115#53(199.246.2.115)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 30 16:00:46 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 78
Code:
[root@mailserv zcs]# host `hostname`
Host mailserv not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:21 PM
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Hello. If you use split DNS as you are behind a firewall, and you have a locally installed DNS server, then your fake domain will resolve where the MX record is for your ZCS installation. I presume 199.246.2.115 is a DNS server from your upstream provider ? This should be your ZCS server. Also, having a search of 199.246.2.115 in your /etc/resolv.conf is also wrong as that should specify which domains to search first ie. rci.ca when you specify a non FQDN.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uxbod View Post
I presume 199.246.2.115 is a DNS server from your upstream provider ?
That is true. I have tried to setup a Split DNS as per the instructions on the link you provided but it didn't work. I get:
Code:
[root@mailserv named]# nslookup mailserv.rci.ca
nslookup: couldn't get address for 'mailserv.rci.ca': not found

Last edited by phoenix; 04-30-2008 at 11:12 PM..
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:42 PM
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I have gotten a little further. Now, I am getting this:

Code:
[root@mailserv named]# nslookup mailserv.rci.ca
Server:         mailserv.rci.ca
Address:        192.168.7.103#53

** server can't find mailserv.rci.ca: NXDOMAIN
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:49 PM
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Here are those files requested earlier, after the attempt at setting up a Split DNS:

Code:
[root@mailserv named]# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
192.168.7.103   mailserv.rci.ca mailserv
192.168.7.107   phpserv
192.168.7.105   arrow
Code:
[root@mailserv named]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search mailserv.rci.ca
nameserver mailserv.rci.ca
nameserver 4.2.2.1
nameserver 4.2.2.2
Code:
[root@mailserv named]# dig rci.ca mx

; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> rci.ca mx
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56110
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;rci.ca.                                IN      MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
rci.ca.                 102     IN      MX      100 rci.ca.s7a1.psmtp.com.
rci.ca.                 102     IN      MX      200 rci.ca.s7a2.psmtp.com.
rci.ca.                 102     IN      MX      300 rci.ca.s7b1.psmtp.com.
rci.ca.                 102     IN      MX      400 rci.ca.s7b2.psmtp.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
.                       509326  IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       509326  IN      NS      F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.

;; Query time: 77 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.7.103#53(mailserv.rci.ca)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 30 16:48:39 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 356
Code:
[root@mailserv named]# dig rci.ca ns

; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> rci.ca ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 14274
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;rci.ca.                                IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
rci.ca.                 69      IN      NS      flamingo.reach.net.
rci.ca.                 69      IN      NS      connect.reach.net.

;; Query time: 83 msec
;; SERVER: 4.2.2.1#53(4.2.2.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 30 16:49:12 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 78
Code:
[root@mailserv named]# host `hostname`
Host mailserv not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Last edited by strafford; 04-30-2008 at 01:51 PM.. Reason: duplication/overlap of posted code
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:14 PM
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In your details above you do not have any A or MX records for the domain rci.ca. Post the BIND config files you've modified.
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