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Old 11-10-2005, 08:05 AM
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Default Cyrus & IMAP IDLE command

Hi

I want to implement an email application called ChatterEmail on a Treo 650 to connect to Zimbra. For true "push" support it needs an IMAP server that implements the "IDLE" command, does Cyrus in Zimbra do this? If not, will it be implemented? Where do you store the Cyrus config files?

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Bill
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:38 AM
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Hi
Zimbra Dir Structure is explained here to find anything:
http://www.zimbra.com/downloads/zimb...e.html#1036235

cyrus protocol specs says it can support IDLE (RFC 2177 IMAP4 IDLE command )
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/download/imapd/specs.html

but i dont know if Zimbra compile "--with idled "
Cyrus docs says
rpm --rebuild --with idled --define='SEEN_DB skiplist' cyrus-imapd-x.x.x-xmdk.src.rpm

idled
Compile the idled daemon to manage imap idle command.
Remember to start the idled daemon in /etc/cyrus.conf

if not then you can compile your own and plug it in..dont know how but that is logical answer

Raj S Vrach
i2k2systems.com

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Old 11-10-2005, 09:33 AM
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Default We don't use Cyrus for IMAP...

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Originally Posted by phoenix
I want to implement an email application called ChatterEmail on a Treo 650 to connect to Zimbra. For true "push" support it needs an IMAP server that implements the "IDLE" command, does Cyrus in Zimbra do this? If not, will it be implemented? Where do you store the Cyrus config files?
To correct a misperception, we don't use Cyrus for IMAP. As far as I know (and Roland can correct me if I'm wrong), all we use from Cyrus is one of their tools for SASL authentication for SMTP auth.

Our IMAP server is integrated into our mail server, and it does indeed support IDLE right out of the box. See this blog post for a list of all supported IMAP and POP extensions (and some POP easter eggs!).
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:05 PM
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Typo in the blog link:

http://oompahzing.blogspot.com/2005/...d-support.html

roland
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:25 PM
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Ah, that's my problem - being a Linux novice I was assuming that a complete version of Cyrus was installed for the IMAP as well. I still can't get my head around the fact you can use 'bits' of products.

Anyway, that sounds promising that you use the "IDLE" command so I'll try my email app and see what happens.

Many thanks.

Regards

Bill
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:46 AM
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Default Idle is not advertised

telnet sjmail 143
Trying 10.xx.xx.xx...
Connected to sjmail.xx.xx.xx (10.xx.xx.xx).
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK sjmail.xxx.xxx.xxx Zimbra IMAP4rev1 service ready
a001 capability
* CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LOGINDISABLED STARTTLS CHILDREN ID LITERAL+ LOGIN-REFERRALS NAMESPACE QUOTA UIDPLUS UNSELECT
abcd OK CAPABILITY completed

According to the RFC, if IDLE is not advertised in a response to the CAPABILITY command, the client is forbidden from issuing the IDLE command. BTW, I'm trying this on the opensource version. Is IDLE only supported in the paid product?
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:58 AM
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IDLE was removed due to some bugs where bad clients would drop the connection and hang Tomcat. We intend to put it back in when this bug is fixed. Might not be the next release but shouldn't be too long after that. This is the case for both Network and OSS.
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:04 AM
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Any idea when IDLE will be fixed? That functionality along with ChatterEmail had us able to have 'push' email to the Treo, and was great.

Or is there any word on the upcoming mobile sync functionality?
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:54 AM
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Any idea when IDLE will be fixed? That functionality along with ChatterEmail had us able to have 'push' email to the Treo, and was great.

Or is there any word on the upcoming mobile sync functionality?
IMAP IDLE and a few other related IMAP performance changes should be in the next major release. Timing on that is late Q1 or early Q2. As for other mobile sync technology that is planned to be public beta around the same timeframe.

http://www.zimbra.com/products/roadmap.html
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:39 AM
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Default Still no IDLE in 3.1?

We just installed 3.1 and it looks like IDLE support didn't make it in. Is there a specific target release for this fix? Please update.

Thanks.
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