[dijichi2]

bigmudcake,

I am not writing zimbra off or dismissing it, at least by choice - I have recently paid my yearly fee for the licenses as I believe it will allow me at least to use the product for another year. I would be very surprised if I can do that again next year but live in hope.

there's no point sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'la la la fud la la license looks ok la la fud fud'. people here are gloomy, but attempting to have a vaguely serious discussion about the facts. to everyone on here, it looks to us like there's no way out.

1) Opensource and NE version license states logo/attribution is mandatory for use/development.
2) Whoever owns the logo/trademark is within his/her right to stop use of it (think Redhat and CentOS).

If anyone has any knowledge or proof to the contrary, then please make us all happy and say something. As others have pointed out, the fact that Zimbra have not said anything is pretty scary. Yahoo have implemented golden parachutes and personally I would have thought it highly unlikely Zimbra will exist in any other form than a ghost skeleton crew to fulfill the bare basics of NE licenses after a 'merger'. The best we can hope is that the Zimbra crew either do a deal to spin it off, or disband and reband to somehow start again with the small amount of code that isn't badgeware. Maybe they have something up their sleeves that they can't say, as you say they're too good a bunch to just let it go. However if you think M$ won't kill Zimbra at the drop of a hat you're living in cuckoo land - in fact it's their duty to protect Exchange/Outlook which provides a vast amount of their income.

The one good thing to come out of this, is I think most people in the opensource world will not touch attribution licensed software with a ten-thousand-foot bargepole from now on.